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debate did for ronald reagan, including one particular one. jimmy carter, how he came back from a shaky one against walter mondale, for paul ryan and looks up to ronald reagan, do you think he is take anything lessons from him, things he will imitate? >> i think he might, he might take cues in a since of knowing how ronald reagan approached the debate to maintain a friendly disposition to be alert to the questions, and respond appropriately. and also to be very polite, and to be the gentlemen he always was. neil: ed, i am wondering, as a former attorney general, now, a lot of legal questions raised about the benghazi blow up, what the administration knew, many are demanding to see cables from ambassador stephens that they think shows he was concerned about his safety, that it could blow up, and legally it should be investigated, and warrant the hiring of a special prosecutor. do you think it blows up to be that big of an issue, and do you think it will come up in this debate. >> it may come up, i think that the administration is in a very tough position, they have two answers, which wer
done a couple of times. jack kennedy, ronald reagan. biden: now your jack kennedy? gerri: that was a cheap shot. bided was wrong when he claimed lower tax rates never had higher revenues. 1920's were slashed from 70% down a 20%. there rose 60%. kennedy cut across the board with the top rate down at 70%. tax revenues jump. ronald reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reduction and the result revenues up 99%. biden: we made sure we cut taxes for the middle-class. gerri: not even close to trooper release seven taxes from obamacare ball directly on the middle class. the tax for not having health care insurance. obamacare taxed the many in the name of flexible spending account in those to deduct from taxes. i could go on and on. joe biden scored big points claiming hedge funds would benefit. biden: 90% of small business america make less than $250,000. others are hedge funds making $600 billion per year that counts as the small business. gerri: hedge fund? the irs says they fall within the household of the top two brackets that the administration wants to raise taxes. and more tha
. >> do you have the specifics? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill and dead. the work together to lower tech -- looking but ronald reagan and tip o'neill dead. -- did. we raise about $1.20 trillion to income taxes. we forgo about $1.10 trillion in loopholes and deductions. denied those loopholes and deductions to hire in, tax payers. so we can lower tax rates across the board. >> i hope i am going to get time to respond. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> no specifics. >> lower tax rate 20%. start with the wealthy. >> you guarantee that this matter will add up. -- math adds up. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses pay less than -- make less than $250,000. adds funds -- hedge funds that makes $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney, 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 paid more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to
. >> it has never been done before. >> ronald reagan -- >> the gloves come off in tonight's vice presidential debate. you saw it. things got heated between the vice president and the man who wants his job. good evening. i'm julie haener. >> welcome to a special edition of our news. this was a very different debate compare to the first presidential debate. with congressman paul ryan and job job fighting it out in their first and only debate of the election season. we have live team coverage. rita williams is with bay area republicans. rob rortsdz is with the democrats. we begin with the high and low moments from the debate. >> there were questions about whether joe biden would come out more aggressively after many said president barack obama failed to live up to expectations last week. we certainly saw that tonight as both the vice president and paul ryan went back and forth first over iran seeking a nuclear weapon. >> it makes us more weak. it projects weakness. when we look weak, or adversaries are much more willing to test us. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of ma larky. >> why is t
done a couple of times. >> right-hand lane reagan. >> ronald reagan. >> go to my website, he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulation money for companies here in wisconsin? we sent millions of dollars. >> he did ask for stimulous money. >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents advocating for grants. >> i love that. this is such a bad program and he writes me a letter saying, the reason we need this stimulous, it will create growth and jobs. his words. >> i want to move on here to medicare and entitlements. i think we have gone over this quite enough. >> by the way, any letter you send me, i'll entertain. >> the night would not be complete without a bidennism. >> that's a bunch of malarkey. not a single thing you said is accurate. >> the is a bunch of stuff. here's the deal. >> what does that mean? >> it is simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> we call it malarkey. >> we have a whole lot of words there. joining me is joe. >> the king of malarkey. we talked about the awards and body language and show some of what we were seeing ton
reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> plenty of heat. biden showed more emotion tonight and personality but i think who you believe won the debate? probably depend on your political point of view unless you include abc martha. she was clearly the best moderator so far. fichlt thanks. social media came alive tonight as well as the two candidates duke it out. twitter says the debate generated 3 and half million tweet. biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a bumper. especially after last night the thrilling
-- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: at the end, each man summed up and both chose to attack. >> my friend says that 30% of the american people are takers. romney points out 47% of the people won't take responsibility. he's talking about my mother and father. talking about the places i grew up, my neighbors. he's talking about, he's talking about the people that built this country. all they're looking for is an even shot. >> president obama, he had his chance. he made his choices. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. >> at least it was a lot better watch than the romney/obama. meanwhile hashtag mularkey is trending nationwide. and martha raddatz has received 80,000 twitter mentions, some saying martha for vice president. >>> next, our political insiders are going to tell us who made the grade tonight. [ feedback ] attention, well, everyone. you can now try snapshot from progressive free for 30 days. just plug this into yo
? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible. last night, ryan blasted the white house. >> it took the president two weeks to announce it was a terr
a couple times. >> it has never. >> jack kennedy. ronald reagan. >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a bit of a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. a watch party of students turned out for this historic debate between two catholic vice presidential candidates. >> i am catholic and it's nice to hear them say they are practicing. but i think a lot of the policy they forget about their religion. >> even this campus only about 50 students showed up to watch the vice presidential debate. there were plenty of empty seats. >>> president obama watched the vice presidential debate on air force one as he was returning to washington from a campaign visit from florida. following the debate the president told reporters he thought joe biden was terrific and already called the vice president to congratulate him. mitt romney watched the debate at his hotel room in ashville, north carolina. the campaign spokesman said he called paul ryan immediately after the debate to congratulate him. on our website at ktvu.com we posted more video of last night
harry truman's administration through to ronald reagan's. collecting people imeel ya that offers a -- memorabilia that offers a three dimensional timeline of the presidential families. john f. kennedy jr.'s baby pen. even a burnt wooden post from 1814 when the british set fire to the white house which arrington found at work during the truman reconstruction. >> we found the table in the tar pen ter shop. >> reporter: he also helped with the kennedy renovations and collected items from the first lady herself, including a handwritten thank you note after the death of her son patrick. >> they're real people and they have real lives. a lot of this collection demonstrates that fact as well. >> i'm sure when he was collecting them, he was just -- never thought it would be of great, big value. but today we're reliving part of history. >> reporter: 1,000 things that arrington saved will be auctioned off today. starting bids ranging from $25 to $12,000. just like presidential life, the collection is bittersweet. wedding and inauguration announcements next to memories of an assassination a
bipartisan agreement. >> do you have the specifics? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. we raise about $1.20 trillion through income taxes. we forgo about $1.10 trillion in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income tax payers. so we can lower tax rates across the board. >> i hope i am going to get time to respond. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> no specifics. >> lower tax rate 20%. start with the wealthy. >> you guarantee that this math adds up. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there with ronald reagan. he gave specifics in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000. hedge funds that make $600 million a year. let's look at how sincere they are. governor romney on "60 minutes," 10 days ago, was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. someone making $50,000 pays more than that. do think that is fair? he said, yes, that is fair. you think these guys are going to cut those loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is that carried interest loophole and cap
's going to take advantage of it just like the hostage crisis in ronald reagan. i think that's what we are seeing now. they see an opportunity and they're trying to take advantage of it. where we should be having a legitimate, serious discussion about the direction of foreign policy in this country with serious ideas on the table yet there are no serious ideas on the table put up by mitt romney or paul ryan. >> stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager from the obama campaign. busy night for you. thanks for spending some of it with us. we appreciate your time. >> thank you, rachel. >> we're counting down to the start of the vice presidential debate tonight. we have one distinct advantage here at msnbc. there's somebody among us right here at msnbc who has personally spent hours debating policy one-on-one with congressman paul ryan for real. that person is ezra klein, msnbc analyst. you should stay tuned to hear what ezra has learned from that very unique experience with one of the combatants in tonight's debate. stay with us. this is msnbc's live coverage of the vice presidential debat
in a republican congress. >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to broaden the base and lower tax rates. what we're saying is, here is our frame work. lower taxes 20%. 1.1 million in loopholes and deductions. deny those loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers so more income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. and here is why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond to this? >> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress, that means specifically. >> no specific. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%. >> and you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and said this math adds up. >> let me translate. >> i'll come back in a second, right? >> i was there when ronald reagan you gave tax rates, he gave specifics of what he would cut in terms of taxan expenditures. 90% of small businesses in america make less than 250,000. let me tell you who other small businesses are. hedge funds, that make $600, $800 million a year. that will count as small business. let's look how sincere
agreements-- >>> do you have the specifics? >> look at what -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a frame work to lower tax rates and broaden the base and fix na. we are saying, here's our frame work, lower tax rates 20%. we raised $1.2 trillion in income taxes and forego $1.1 trillion in loophole deductions. we are saying, deny the loopholes and deductions to higher-income taxpayers, so more of their income is taxed -- >> can i translate? >> to lower the tax rates across the board. what we are saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond-- >>> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. >> martha: no specifics? >> lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it? >> martha: you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed and verified. >> martha: vice-president -- [overlapping dialogue] >> let me translate. let me have a chance to translate. >> first of all, i was there when ronald reagan tax rates and he gave specifics of what he was going to cut, number 1 nterms of tax expe
's been done a couple of times. >> it has never been done before. >> ronald reagan. >> reporter: in his first national debate ryan chairman of the house budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> reporter: pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back town. >> medicare and social security going bankrupt. these are indisputable facts. they haven't put a credible solution on table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say you all these things to scare people. >> reporter: he silenced the vice president almost by connecting the president's jobs record to president's home town. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pence, i'm from wisconsin. you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? 10%. you know what it was the day you guys came in? 8.5%. that's how it's going around america. >> reporter: biden wanted to obviously stop romney's momentum from last week and change the subject but he may have some clean up to do to
ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut in terms of tax expenditures. 97% of small-business americans paid -- make less than $250,000. amid tell you who some of the other small businesses are. hedge funds that make a hundred million dollars a year. that is what they call as small business. gov. romney on 60 minutes about 10 days ago was asked, you pay 14% on $20 million. somebody making $50,000 face more than that. he said that is fair. that is fair. do you think these guys are going to go out there and cut the loopholes? the biggest loophole they take advantage of is the carriage entrance loophole and the capital gains loophole. the reason that the american enterprise study, the tax policy center study all say taxes will go up on the middle-class is it is the only way you can find at $5 trillion and loopholes as to cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. and cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve important preferences for midd
a couple of times. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy-- ronald reagan. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> and he got it wrong. george w. bush lowered rates and when they did the treasury went up. and the other hot topic was libya. >> this benghazi issue would have been a tragedy in and of itself, unfortunately it's indicative of a broader problem. what we're watching on our tv screens is the unravelling of the obama foreign policy which is making the war more chaotic and us less safe. >> joe biden says the administration did not know about the request for more security in libya, but a day earlier the state department official in sworn statement said more security had been requested and denied. and when asked about it, president obama said, quote, i didn -- and after that, said i didn't catch that exchange. and the opening bell on wall street. here we go. >> stocks will open pretty flat this morning, a day after the debate. we've got one news item, a number from the government in the background here, it's the producer price index up. 1.1%, month over month and that's a big inc
never been didn't before. >> robbed reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. >>onald reagan. ronald reagan. >> plenty of heat. biden showedt and more emotion tonighd personality but i think who you believe won the debate? probably depend on your political point of view unless you include abc martha. she was clearly the best moderator so far. fichlt thanks. social media came alive tonight as well as the two candidates duke it out. twitter says the debate generated 3 and half million tweet. biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a b
are ronald reagan. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as rude. it looks like a cranky old man to some extent debating a polite young man. >> i think i have watched almost every presidential and vice presidential debate since the first four kennedy nixon debates since 1960 thinking back over the next few minutes i don't believe i have ever seen a debate when one participant was as openly disrespectful as the other as biden was to paul ryan. you can talk about the smirks the head shaking, it was con tenuous and disrespectful. >> that lead us to our brew on this question of the day. what did you think of the debate? send your comments via tweet. tweet them to us
never -- >> john kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh. now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: vice president joe biden and republican challenger, paul ryan, delivered stark difference on domestic and foreign policy. including how to fix the economy. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after president obama for his response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. >> reporter: while biden challenged ryan's proposed changes to medicare. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you're changing the program from a guaranteed benefit. >> reporter: it was a more heated back and forth than the first presidential debate. and biden often laughed at ryan's arguments. >> joe biden understood, ton
of times. >> it has never been done before. >> ronald reagan and jack kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> the vice president almost got dismissive when he tried to question the administration's business in afghanistan. >> at times joe biden used answers like marlakey over answers paul ryan gave. the romney/ryan ticket has been saying the united states has been pulling too many troops out of afghanistan leave doing small of force to defend itself in the eastern part of that country. now again here biden staying on the attack questioning ryan's understanding of the obama administration's policy to train afghan troops to take over the fight against the taliban. >> it's the most dangerous place in the world. >> that's why we don't want to send fewer -- >> that's why we should send americans in to do the job. you'd rather americans >> no. we are already sending americans to do the job but fewer of them. >> that's right. we're sending in more afghans to do the job, afghans to do the job. >> you know, this post debate spin has already gone into high gear tonight. republicans sending out doze
: it was topic number one, a charged moment in the night for the wisconsin congressman. >> ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, your jack kennedy. >> reporter: as predicted by the campaign, the vice president came out grinning, flapping, flailing arms. he was aggressive, attacking the republican ticket hard >> we will have credibility on this issue. >> incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place, in spite of their opposition. it has been discredited by studies, over a 100 criminal investigations. >> reporter: along the way, the vice president cut in. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- to make up for lost ground >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when mr. ryan said that he was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden won. >> the vice president did. >> why? >> i think he came off as being very strong, emotional, and i ke the looking at the camera and talking to the american people. >> reporter: another
a few fireworks. >> it's been done a couple times. >> it has never. >> ronald reagan -- >> they delivered stark differences on domestic and foreign policy, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going in the wrong direction. the economy is barely limping along. >> that is surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are not willing to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax and governor romney pays in his federal income-tax. >> mitt romneypaul ryan went after. after >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attacks. >> you are jeopardized and medicare and changing it from a guaranteed benefit. >> it was heated. joe biden often laughed at all right in opposing arguments. >> joe biden understood denied he had to do what president obama failed to do last week's. >> both president obama and mitt romney watched closely. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i cannot be prouder. >> and running mates even shared a few laughs. >> i think the vice president knows that sometimes the words don't co
before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan over mitt romney's controversial comments calling 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes irresponsible. >> the idea, if you heard that, that little sol little quill on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i got a bridge to sell you. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: when biden wasn't talking, he seemed oddly amused. by our count -- smiling or breaking out in laughter 92 separate times. expressive, often interrupting and occasionally personal. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it -- it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> thanks for the translation. >> reporter: and ryan needled ryan over the president's performance in last week's debate. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for l
have the specifics? >> look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. the work together to fix the tax base. we are saying here is our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raised $1.20 trillion. we forgo $1.10 trillion in loopholes and deductions. what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayer so more there -- more of their income is taxed. we can lower tax rates across the board. here is why i am saying this. >> i hope i get time to respond to this. >> you will get time. >> we want to work with congress to achieve this. what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. >> you guarantee this? >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. >> let me have a chance to translate. i was there when ronald reagan -- to give specifics of what he was going to cut. in terms of -- he gave specifics in what he was going to cut. 90% of american businesses make less than 2 luckett $50,000. that counts as businesses. governor romney 10 days ago was asked, you pay 40% on $20 million. some are making $50,000 and paid more than that. do you think that is fa
have the specifics? do you know what you are doing? >> ryan: look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. we're saying here is our framework, lower tax rates about 20% -- we forgo about $1.1 trillion in loop holes and deductions so what we're saying is deny those loophole and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed -- >> biden: can i translate. >> ryan: so we can lower tax rates across the board -- >> biden: i hope i'm going to get time to respond -- >> you'll get time. >> ryan: we want to work on how to achieve this -- >> no specifics, then. >> ryan: lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy -- >> can you guarantee this math will add up. >> ryan: six studies have verified that this will add up -- >> vice president biden. >> biden: let me have a chance to translate. ronald reagan gave specifics to what he was going to cut number one in terms of tax expenditures. number two 90% of the small businesses in america make less than
increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he said last night the administration didn't know about additional security requests there in benghazi. of co
's writing in addition to that when you're president and this is why ronald reagan losses first debate on why george w. bush lost his first re-election debate. if you are brought, it's arguably longer than that but anybody -- nobody really tells you what to think and he just -- that is way we saw the president physically taken aback as romney went at him. the romney folks, the new months ago that the debate prep would be the manhattan project of their campaign, that was where they were going to flip the switch if that had any possibility and we saw a romney whose family for a long time have been encouraging the campaign, to let him be more of himself, to be less scripted. he resisted that so we saw him all come out. the problem for him now, he has to do it two more times and there are number of countries who will tell you one problem is you only get one speak attack. [laughter] >> i will on to apologize to any of the ambassadors who are insulted by mike. [laughter] david letterman because one of the things hearing the obama camp's series of excuses and explanations for his performance, david
been done. >> ronald reagan. >> middle class got knock ond their heels. the great recession crushed them. they need help now. >> next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get wealthy people to pay their fair share. watch out, middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> greta: right now gets go to jamesville, wisconsin. his father and -- family and friends gathered to watch. so what did you think? the congressman's brother and sister-in-law, good evening to all of you. nice to see you. >> hi, greta. >> hi. >>. >> greta: tobin i've gotten word you just got off the phone and received first phone call and from your brother. what did he have to say? >> this is just like paul. he was interested in how our evening went. and he knew there are four 500 people here supporters with very, very loyal thoughts and he wanted to know our evening went and sure enough, a humble guy. he wanted feed back and i was very proud of him. very pleased with how he performed. >> greta: oakley did you get on the snon. >> no. i let tobin talk to his brother. >> greta: were you nervous oakley le
times. >> it has never been. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes too decent. joe biden is showing you have to stay with the facts. >> those people obviously thought joe biden dominated the debate. republicans thought paul ryan came out ahead. no surprise there. we have posted more video of last nights debate just look for world and u.s. news tab. >>> another debate is making headlines but for very different reasons. youtube video shows two southern california lawmakers almost getting in a fight. coming up at 5:45 what was behind this heated exchange. >>> happening right now the space shuttle endeavour is on the move. it's headed from lax to its permanent home at the cal
, it was highest number since the one single debate ronald reagan had against jimmy carter in 1980. that is a famous year. that is the first time in 100 years republicans have taken out a sitting president. the presidential debate tied with clinton's debate with the first george bush in 1992, when the democrats took out an incumbent president. so i think there are a lot of people who are unhappy with obama but they just wanted to check out the challenger, make sure they're not leaping into something that they're not comfortable with. wow, romney's performance will make them very comfortable. melissa: everyone thought their guy won. they were like, my guy was awesome. isn't that sort of, don't you think that was sort of the takeaway from everybody at home? of course you know, half thought it was one guy and half thought it was the other guy that really got it done? >> my, my sense of the debate was more that each side was presenting its policy positions and, i do think ryan looked like, a lovely young man who would not be off-putting to most people and it is not so much on the debat
think. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan -- >> biden trying to make a moment of his own capitalizing when ryan brought up jfk. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> it's irish. >> we irish call it malarkey. >> it all came down to, again, stuff in this light moment. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton, pennsylvania, i'm in james, wisconsin. you know what the unemployment is in scranton? 10%. when you guys came in it's 8.5%. >> you don't read this. that's not how it's going. it's going down. >> look -- >> all right. you're going to hear more about the debate coming up throughout the day on msnbc. that is going to wrap up this hour of "jansing and company." i'm chris jansing. richard lui is in next. >> malarkey was my favorite. one of the top tweeted moments. >> unbelievable how much traction that got. >> have a good weekend. coming up this next hour, pardon the interruption, the vice president brings the heat with laughs, guffaws and jabs that some say in a debate too
the specifics? do you know exactly what you're doing? >> look at what mitt romney -- look at what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base and worked together to fix that. what we're saying is here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about $1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego $1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed which has a broader base of translation so we can lower tax rates across the board. here's why i'm saying this. what we're saying -- >> i hope i get time to respond. >> you'll get time. >> we want to work with the congress on how best to achieve this. that means successful -- >> no specifics again. >> what we're saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress to do it. >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> six studies have guaranteed -- six studies have verified this would add up. >> vice president biden. >> i'll come back in a second then, ri
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